The REAL Truth About Amy Sangster & Robert Himler


My policy on responding to negativity has and always will be the same- ignore it. In recent times however, it seems that there are some facts that need to be presented that prior to this article, have caused much speculation and debate. This article contains the necessary information to put an end to all of this nonsense, and also a little advice to those devoting their lives to trying to bring me/us/other successful people down.

Let’s treat this like an FDN (similar to FAQ’s, but standing for Frequently Discussed Nonsense).

FDN 1.
There is no way she could have money at her age. Takes money to make money. Her parents must have given it to her etc.

Anyone who has read our book Far From It will know that the reason I was able to fund my trading account at a young age was because I made a very decent amount of money in my teen years selling eBay products. My parents spilt up in a messy divorce when I was 15, and as a consequence I moved out with my mother who had to start over on a teachers salary (while supporting myself and my brother living at home at the time). Anyone claiming otherwise can now see they are wrong. Robert’s parents may be in a better situation than mine, but they have certainly not funded his current lifestyle. Neither of us have received any funding from our parents.

FDN 2.
If she’s so good at trading and making money, she wouldn’t bother teaching others how to do the same for such a low price.

Essentially, what people with this opinion are implying is that no successful person could ever have good intentions and simply want to help others. Yes, I make good money trading, but it takes up less than 1% of my day. I’m not content going shopping and lazing around for the other 99%. I get a kick out of changing the way others think and making a positive difference in the world. I don’t believe in charging ridiculous amounts for education. If I charged $10,000 each course would these people be more satisfied that I had good intentions. I don’t think so. It might come as a shock but some people like helping others. With this logic these people could argue that if university professors or school teachers are so knowledgable, why do they bother teaching others for such little personal benefit? Maybe because that’s what they want to do?! There are some genuinely good people in the world with good intentions. While some have ulterior motives, not all do. All comments like FDN 2 tell me is that these people have been burned before and are spiteful, closed minded, negative people who are not likely to go very far in life. Nothing more.

In the 3 years IP has been running we have had an amazing response and amazing results. The best people to listen to in regards to the course are students themselves (as often the “reports” etc are written by spiteful people who have not even taken it). We have a student results section on the site here: CLICK TO VIEW but since naysayers could easily say this is fabricated, we’ve also created an unedited raw album of snapchats/messages we’ve received from students. CHECK THAT OUT HERE: Infinite Prosperity Student Results

I think the most common misconception is that people misinterpret my experience trading as me essentially saying “trade FX and you’ll be an instant millionaire”. This couldn’t be further from the truth and is why we’re blatantly open about realistic expectations in the first two free lessons. You can check that out here:

FDN 3.
Far From it is a scam. She and Robert are scamming people.

We wrote a motivational book that many people were asking for, detailing our stories and included advice for others wanting a similar lifestyle. We also created a forum for our members, where we connect with everyone and help them out where needed. Let’s get this straight. We are not obligated to help other people. We didn’t have to spend months writing a book that was for the benefit of others. We wanted to. We charge a price, because our time is valuable, just like everyone else’s. It is not a get rich quick book. We never claim that if you do A,B and C you will be rich. We claim the opposite, that everyone needs to take their own path. People wanting to have success handed to them in a simple formula would be disappointed, of course. The formula is different for everyone, which we state in the book. We simply compiled information on our mindset and abilities which allowed us to get to the point we’re both at today and presented it in advice form for others. Oh and it has a 60 day money back guarantee- you mean if I have an issue I can get my money back?! Yep, what a scam. Bottom line: Anything self help related will be called a scam by those who are closed minded, or simply want a get rich quick strategy.

FDN 4.
Robert bought her Lambo for her. She’s with him for the money.

This one’s easy to debunk. Below is a picture of my car title clearly in the name of Amy Sangster LLC. For those thinking of purchasing an exotic, it’s cheaper to set up an LLC in Montana, register your car there and pay no sales tax. Smart. I make money of my own and have never accepted anything from Robert, other than the gifts we both buy each other. While most are, not everyone is superficial. As much as the haters don’t want to hear or believe it, we fell in love because we think the same way and do amazing things together. End of story.

FDN 5.
She’s using sex to sell forex.

So no one that’s half good looking can trade? Solid claim there. Am I supposed to let myself go so my abilities are taken seriously. What a joke!

FDN 6.
The rich get richer etc etc.

Of course they do! They have a mindset that makes them money! What are they supposed to do, become poorer? No. There’s been studies carried out that show that if the world’s wealth was distributed evenly among everyone, over time, money would end up back in the hands of those that were wealthy prior to the change. Why? Because they know how to make money and they have a mindset that allows them to! Is this any reason to hate someone? No. It all comes down to the way people deal with jealousy.

Here’s some advice and insight into the way negative, cynical people think. It’s from our book, so consider it a free sample.

“With our videos and work online in a public setting, we’ve both encountered our fair share of haters. By haters, we’re talking about those who stop at nothing to put you down or belittle your craft. If you’re thinking of doing something outside the box, becoming even slightly successful or expressing any sort of opinion, get ready because they’re coming your way too! The more successful you become, the more haters you’ll face, so it’s important we take a look at why people behave this way.

“Haters don’t really hate you. They hate themselves because you’re a reflection of what they wish to be.”

 The number one reason someone will try and put you down is because they are jealous of you. Why not use you as inspiration instead? Because it’s far easier to “hate” someone than it is to learn from them. We’ve discussed this concept before, but it’s important you understand that people rarely take the mature, logical approach. Instead they default to creating a justification as to why they aren’t in the same situation. If a hater can’t find a legitimate reason to put you down, they’ll make something up. There are examples of this all around us. Take a look at Justin Bieber for example.

He receives hate more than almost any celebrity we could think of. So let’s check out his stats to see why. He’s worth $112 million dollars. He’s been nominated for 107 music awards, and won 58 of them. He’s admired by girls all over the world and has a beautiful celebrity girlfriend. He owns a 10,000 square foot mansion in California, along with a Cadillac, Fisker Karma, customized Range Rover, Lamborghini, Ferrari and Porsche Turbo. Oh, and he’s 18 years old. 

Of course people hate him! How do you think a 56 year old office worker living paycheck to paycheck feels when confronted with an 18 year old kid who makes 100,000 times more than him in a year? My guess- not too crash hot! So it stands to reason that the more successful (and different) you are, the more people out there you’ll make uncomfortable, and the more hate you’ll receive.

The main thing to keep in mind is to never, ever let it affect you. If you do, you’re giving haters what they want. A sure way to beat them (and piss them off in the process) is to ignore them, work harder than ever before and be happy in the process. At the end of the day, they know who you are and you haven’t heard of them. That right there says it all.”

Now I realize that this will not stop the haters from hating, if anything it will make them even more spiteful knowing that everything I have and have done is legitimate, but I thought I’d present the above facts so people can make more informed decisions.

I also want to say a big thank you to the hundreds of people who email Robert and I each day saying we’ve helped them on the journey to a better life. You’re the reason we bother putting ourselves out there in the first place. If you witness any of the above FDN’s or similar popping up about the place, feel free to link to this article. We love you all and will continue to be there for you guys where ever we can. We are blessed to have such amazing lives and be in the position to motivate others in the capacity that we do, don’t think for a second that we take that lightly.

Robert has a few things he’d to clear up as well, so keep an eye on his blog.

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Posted on August 29, 2012 in Blog, Robert & I, Trading

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Responses (20)

  1. Matt Parker
    August 29, 2012 at 9:33 am · Reply

    Great post to rubbish the haters (although I bet some fools still won’t believe you!). It really is amazing how difficult it is for 95% of people to accept someone more successful than them, so like you say, the excuses or hate come out. “I’m from a poor family and because of the government, only the rich get richer” when in fact Branson, Jobs, Gates and so many other Of the worlds richest came from disadvantaged backgrounds and had to do everything themselves, because they had that mindset.

    I never hated those with more than me, if I saw someone with a supercar, it inspired me, and in fact I’ve even had some hate for my car, it’s only a BMW! When I was 17 I had an old Audi A3 so nothing like Robert at that age, and some morons shouted “how much was your dads car?!” straight away assuming it couldn’t have been mine! I’m now 21 and have been inspired by hate, as I’ve heard you comment people only try to bring you down because you’re above them, not saying I get much of it but I certainly get some jealousy over driving a decent car at a young age.

    As for Bieber, I was guilty of hating him I admit, but actually after reading FFI, I realised why and no longer do! I’m not a fan of his music at all, but I realise he’s a success and he’s been pretty smart to breed more success so now I just think well done!

    Anyway that’s my dollar in the hat, keep enjoying NZ and letting the haters hit your Teflon when they try shooting you down!

  2. Alex Westergaard
    August 29, 2012 at 8:24 pm · Reply

    I don’t understand why haters hate people who have the money and will to entertain other people.

  3. Dominic Park
    August 30, 2012 at 3:33 am · Reply

    This was a great post Amy!

    It always astounds me, in fact sometimes it pisses me right off, that people who see successful people always go: Oh he/she has had luck or he/she came from money. Most of these people don’t stop and think – maybe this person has drive, ambition and determination etc. to make something of themselves. Through their hard work they achieved it! The other coin to that also is when people think: I can do the same their friends and family often are negative and say Nah you can’t so they believe it and follow the same path. People need to drop the negative shit out of their lives, plain and simple. I mean shit, I haven’t come from money or had a simple ride through life so far but have I let that get me down or stop me from achieving what I have so far?! – shit NO! If anything it drives me to succeed and have the life I want.

    Take a look at Steve Jobs – if you have read his auto-biography you would know that he was adopted to a working class family. Steve knew what he wanted to do and he worked his backside off to achieve it. He had his doubters and his haters, but he ignored them and away he went, created the most valuable company on the planet (2012 Apple market cap of over 600 billion!) Enough said! Would that be the case if Steve had listened to and accepted all the negativity – doubt it! Bill Gates did the same thing! There’s a pattern here, you just have to open your eyes a little.

    Amy and Robert I have this to say – f%&k the haters and doubters! You should not have to explain yourself to every Tom, Dick and Harry because a few jerks feel the need to bring you down and the others that support you and follow you. Maybe instead of being so negative and trolling they should wake up, take a good look in the mirror and fix what is wrong with their life. Maybe then, just maybe they will see the light and make a change. I think what you guys are doing is downright awesome! Not too many people open their lives up like you two do (web casts while sipping champers and answering ???, filming unreal car vids or blogging about your holiday so others can have an inside look at what you’re doing etc.).

    Keep it up guys – never ever let the negative shit take hold!

    Yours in awesomeness,


  4. RJ
    August 30, 2012 at 7:27 am · Reply

    Good post. I hate Haters!

  5. thesturobertson
    August 30, 2012 at 8:40 am · Reply

    Hi Ames,

    Great to read some of your personal opinion on this. I can see you have channelled your energies well for this one – I can tell perhaps, you guys have had it a bit tight! (man I feel sorry for Justing B now, I never knew)

    Its interesting to note how many people have this dreadful and abreaction to wealth – the spite and the jealousy plus the pure belief passed around that your wealth has been handed down, or you’re having to sell your body – how ridiculous!!! People who are wealthy will become wealthy again. The law of attraction is a great read for people who are feeling this spite, anger, jealousy or other abreaction.

    The best bit? About passing on your education and not charging the earth for it 🙂
    Whilst you have every right to charge more than you do for the effort, work and knowledge that you guys have put in – some of my own best and most personal education came at a discounted rate, free and indeed was willingly given to me purely through having a good attitude, a positive frame of mind and being a genuine guy!! I had real concern for doing better for myself and I continue to adopt a learning frame of mind to self-educate more and more. How else would I, or anyone else expect to do better, by luck? We make our own luck!

    Its great to see how happy you guys are together. The photos are awesome!!
    Keep up the amazingly good work!! 🙂
    Loads love, Stu

  6. Moayad
    August 30, 2012 at 10:24 am · Reply

    Haters gonna hate

  7. Spencer
    August 30, 2012 at 4:41 pm · Reply

    Hey…don’t let the bas@#$$%s get you down. I checked out some of the recent criticism, and to be honest it looks like you have plenty of defenders, so be proud! 😉 I think the reason why some people get provoked on BabyPips (this is where I found it) is because most traders on these sites are retail guys who are over 34 and not profitable or barely profitable. I wouldn’t say this to nearly anyone, but the reason why they are not profitable is because 1 they are no learning effectively and do not understand even the most basic trading 2 they are stupid and arrogant.

    Keep it up, no one gets to six figs twitter followers as a “scammer” (even if some help was brought down!)

  8. Dominic McStraw
    August 30, 2012 at 9:25 pm · Reply

    Amy (and Rob),

    Some people don’t just get it. In Oz, we’ll refer to it as “the tall poppy syndrome” and the perceived need to find excuses to discredit those who’ve been before, succeeded and gotten on with the task (not job) of finding their balance in life.
    Whether you’re in the early 20’s, or a early-term Gen Xer like me, it’s healthy to hear from the “haters” from time to time. It make you realize you’ve done well and can reward yourself how you please and where it permits, be able to give back, be altruistic even.
    Reading the post, don’t mind if I add some personal feedback here and keep the message alive … don’t hate, be open to look at someone’s experiences and “have a good ol crack yourself. Get a knock back or knock down, dust yourself and get right back up.

    FDN 1 – There is no way she could have money at her age. Takes money to make money. Her parents must have given it to her etc.
    Ha! Let’s see, Forbes 400 self-made billionaires are all entrepreneurs who said no to college (uni for those in Oz). They did it themselves. On the flipside, those who did have money as a seed and succeeded, like James Packer etc, all had the drive to succeed and made that nest a much bigger one.
    Cudos to all. But, who gives a hot how it started, it’s the journey and where you are going to next that’s important.

    FDN 2 – If she’s so good at trading and making money, she wouldn’t bother teaching others how to do the same for such a low price.
    Another one not understood. Those who do well enjoy helping others do well. It’s engrained in your DNA. By succeeding by oneself, you succeed more by helping others succeed. Whether its trading Forex, helping a new venture or start up, teaching your parents to get on Facebook, etc, it’s not the cost of doing the work or business, it’s the opportunity cost you get back by seeing others challenge their status quo and getting FarFromIt!

    FDN 3 – Far From it is a scam. She and Robert are scamming people.
    Hmmm .. Best comments here is .. anyone hear of politicians? Whilst there are those out there doing good, there’s a mass populous who do “to coin the phrase” scam the voting public into action. And, if you think it’s a scam, then don’t get involved. Anyone with a decent BS radar gets it and turn the other way. Do your research haters and use that space between the ears to think, review and act.

    FDN 4 – Robert bought her Lambo for her. She’s with him for the money.
    Proof of title is enough.

    FDN 5 – She’s using sex to sell forex.
    Ha!, sorry, coughed on the evening latte! …. If I only had some looks on my jughead and could use it to be better at what I do, I’d be in there like flint selling to my hearts content. As you said, some are blessed with looks, some with brains, some with athletic ability, some with all of these and more. Get a life haters!

    FDN 6 – The rich get richer etc etc.
    As you said, …. And so they do … it’s about pushing the boundaries and yes, come the rewards, But, the journey from where one started and how they got to be so called RICH and RICHER, is a lesson or 3 that others could learn from.

    Next time you are around Sydney and time to drop me a line, appreciate making contact with you both. Enjoy the powder in NZ ansd safe travels back home.


  9. Miguel Marquez
    September 22, 2012 at 1:16 am · Reply

    This further motivates me gets my heart racing, forehead tingling that I have had this mindset in pieces and the story behind these two individuals and the book they wrote put my puzzle together. Its true what they say about hatred they do put u down hold u back to make themselves better but the book has made me take the hate in a positive way and motivate me to push myself and leave them behind. I smile seeing the hate towards them because wether u believe them or not they are happily enjoying the life they have made for themselves and no one else.

  10. OttoAu
    September 25, 2012 at 10:31 pm · Reply

    Must be a American thing?, us Aussie could not care if your super rich or not, we also dont have issue with class of people, if your rich, good luck to you, if your a cleaner good luck to you too, we get on and talk to everybody, land of the yob!…lol

    Go get them Amy!!

  11. Andrew Alves
    September 27, 2012 at 3:10 am · Reply

    Hey Amy,

    You couldnt have put this better in any way!

    “Haters don’t really hate you. They hate themselves because you’re a reflection of what they wish to be.”

    Fact of Life!

    You guys (You, Rob and Lewis) have shown me another path to travel on! I have read over Infinite Prosperity a few times now and will be signing up soon.

    I have no finance degree, just an IT guy and willing to have an open mind and try something different in life for a change.

    Keep up the good work and enjoy life!


  12. Richie Marshall
    January 16, 2013 at 8:38 pm · Reply

    Hey Amy,
    Just had a read over your blog you and Rob seem genuine people,
    also the fact you are both going out your way to help others speaks volumes in itself
    never mind the haters it’s them who have the problem
    Keep up the good work and enjoying the luxuries in life that you have both earned
    Any pointers would be appreciated I would quiet like a Lamborghini myself lol.
    I run my own small business and don’t think I could work for anyone now lol
    Enjoy the good life and keep smiling


    • Amy
      January 19, 2013 at 7:41 pm · Reply

      Thanks so much Richie 🙂 Best of luck to you too..enjoy!!


  13. Michael Garcia
    July 15, 2013 at 2:30 pm · Reply

    Hey Amy (and Rob… I know he’s there… ACCEPT MY “HEY” MAN!),

    I’ve been following up on you guys for close to a year now, and I’m pretty sure that I first experienced that seed of thought that told me, “Man, there’s got to be more out there than just getting a job and being told what to do, being paid by salary, and just not feeling the best you can be”. My journey has been a bit bumpy. I am pretty much self-taught on everything, and sometimes it’s REALLY hard to be in complete control of one’s thoughts and not give in to negativity, depression, and lack of hope, but when I look back and see just how far I’ve come–from both a change in mental beliefs and attitudes–I realize that I cannot stop now! I’ve been reading lots of books, including “Think and Grow Rich”, “How to Win Friends and Influence People”, Key to Living the Law of Attraction”, and several more. Since then, and especially in the past few months, I’ve been coming up with several solid ideas for websites and apps. Someone with no experience whatsoever, I’m finding it a bit difficult to get started, but I’m not giving up! I’m looking into other options besides trying to code things entirely by myself, but in the meantime, I’m still going through different designs and letting my creativity flow. Seeing you both live the way you want to live and enjoying every bit of it has been (and still is) a MAJOR motivational push to propel me forward as I’m creating my own unique path to success. I know I will get there, although I’m not sure entirely when I’ll be living the exact lifestyle I want, I know that I can have fun and be happy up until that point, and that once I get there, my life will have just begun in terms of what I can and will give back. I will say, the 458 Italia has been really calling out to me… I was recently in Dallas where I got to see one for the first time ever! To be honest, I had been thinking just 2 weeks prior that the reality was that It’d probably be a year or two before ever seeing one in person, but I still held on to that vision of looking right at the thing and sitting in it. And what do you know? The guys at the dealership let me sit in it as well! I took tons of photos and spammed Instagram like a little turd, but it’s all worth it to me haha. I’ve been faced with a lot of negativity in life, some of which was just the result of having a bad attitude, but I have changed a lot and grown up a lot. I’m exploring other avenues to generate income to invest in bigger projects, so we’ll see how that goes. I’m very excited, and having the luxury of checking up on you and Rob always keeps me going. His old ‘Fly-by’s’ video especially does the trick, VROOOOOOOOOOMM! Thank you both for all the support to the fans, and I anxiously await more content on the good old YouTube!

    Thanks and take care guys, as always!

  14. Cara
    August 16, 2013 at 6:04 pm · Reply

    Hey Amy,

    I have a great TV opportunity that I think you might be a good fit for. Your story is so inspirational and should be shared worldwide! Shoot me an email if you are interested!



  15. James Rushworth
    November 20, 2013 at 1:52 pm · Reply

    Hi Amy and Robert,

    I’d like to start by saying that I admire you both for your successes and long may they continue for you both. I’ve seen both sides of being rich and poor and experienced the vitriol of those who blame you for having money.
    I do however, have some issues with what you’ve said above and the narrative that you are portraying. I see it like this; there are many shortages of resource in this world, and your country is a great example (I’m from the UK, which is quite similar). The rich (1%) control the resources and the rest of us (99%) buy the resources. The rich employ people to look after their resources and keep all the profits for themselves. That’s the reason there is a large disparity between rich and poor in the western world. It is not because some people ‘work hard’ and others don’t. That’s the American (Dream) Myth. Most of those that are rich have had a great education and upbringing, which is a fantastic thing. Not everyone of course, can convert a great upbringing into success, but this is not the norm.
    So when I see pictures and videos of you and others like you, driving Lambos etc, I’m thinking “wow, what a huge waste of resources! Why don’t these people do some good in the world?”. Are we not facing an Ecological disaster pretty soon? I think it’ll be in your lifetime. All the people who don’t have any opportunity; poor education, lack of resources, poor diet, drug addiction etc. Plus all the terrible things that happen all over the place like toxic waste and water supply poisoning, poaching, rainforest devastation, famine, disasters etc. With your drive, ambition, intelligence and wealth, you could make a huge difference. Look at Bill Gates, he’s a major hero of mine, but it’s not because of his Ferrari.
    So I guess I’m saying that spidermans granddad was right, with great power comes great responsibility!
    Good luck to you both, I hope you can make a difference.

  16. Dan.k
    January 16, 2015 at 4:21 am · Reply

    The Pros and Cons,
    when we decide to let people in our lives!
    To the haters.. Isn’t there something more constructive you can do with your time!
    Luv the car vids super cool
    Anyways YOU GO GIRL

  17. Tanya Auer
    June 9, 2015 at 4:00 am · Reply

    Hello Amy

    We went to high school together – graduates of year 2007 WOO! I was talking to someone the other from school, and they told me about how crazy successful you have become. I didnt believe them – I mean how could anyone from our school, except maybe Sam Weatherhog with his boy genius brain, make it big!?
    So, I googled your name, and I saw a face I recognized on the first result.
    My mind is blown. I read this blog, and I feel that I can vouch for you to a certain degree.
    We went to a public school, where none of the students were from outrageously wealthy. In fact, a lot of the students were from very low socioeconomic suburbs. I know I was.
    You and I didn’t sit together a lunch, or have the same classes, but we knew each other. Went to Heron Island camp together. I know that you were smart, outgoing, fun and very down to earth.
    I cannot ever imagine you ripping people off, or living off someone else’s money. It make perfect sense to me that you have made this life for yourself.

    So I just want to say congratulations! You should be so proud of yourself, and I cannot wait to hear about you life at our high school reunion in a few years!

    Take care, and the best of luck with all your endeavors!
    Tanya Auer

    • Amy
      June 15, 2015 at 12:44 am · Reply

      Hey! I hardly check the comments but by chance stumbled upon yours! So good to hear from you again and thank you for the kind words!

      Unfortunately when you do something out of the box it upsets people to a level I never experienced until I lived pretty publicly online! Not wonderful to think that the level of hate in the world is what it is, but I know who I am and so do those around me so that’s all that matters 🙂 Teaches you to be self assured that’s for sure!! Very nice of you to remember me for those qualities (although I was a regular immature high school kid at the time!). You were always lovely also 🙂

      Hope you’re living your dreams and are happy, healthy & inspired!

      Have a wonderful week!!
      Amy x

  18. Kyrila Scully
    October 20, 2015 at 2:45 pm · Reply

    You go, girl! That’s telling the haters. I spent a few months quality time with both you and Rob and I wish I could have stayed around longer. You were both very kind and sweet to me, and I hope I helped improve your home life at the time, as well. I miss you, and I’ll always remember you and Rob. I hope he is at peace. Keep in touch, okay? Love. Kyrila

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